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Posted - 2008.05.05 02:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Havohej
The comparisons between EFT/EVEMon and BACON are comical at best, trolling at worst.
If you're stupid enough to not see the difference, let me point it out: BACON does something for you, actively, dramatically effecting your game play in real time. It watches local FOR you. Alertness is part of actively playing a game. If you have a program to be alert FOR you, then that program is playing part of the game FOR you.
EFT, on the other hand, is a database of information. You tell it what your character's skills and implants are, and it tells you what performance you might be able to get by fitting module x on ship y. It doesn't actually DO anything with your game play, in real time or otherwise, because YOU have to get those modules and those ships and those implants by your own effort. EFT does none of it FOR you.
EVEMon is similar in the database aspect, in that it holds the equation for how long it takes a skill to train based on attribute scores which are affected by learning skills and implants. You tell it what your current skills and implants are, and it does some math and tells you how long it will take to train a whole queue of skills. It doesn't log on and switch to train the next skill when your current skill is finished. It doesn't buy your skillbooks. It doesn't do anything FOR you. It's merely a source of information which has already been publicly circulated by CCP itself - they've told us the skill training multipliers, they've told us the equations for the stacking penalties on modules.
EVEMon and EFT = Database of information unable to effect game play in real time.
BACON = Program which automates being alert by watching local FOR you, in real time.
And you can't tell the difference? You can't see what makes BACON bad, while EFT and EVEMon remain good?
Not to mention the API was provided by CCP to be used for just such apps as EFT and EVEmon. Whereas the logserver information is NOT provided to be used in such 3rd party apps. If BACON was actually some kind of tool that used the logserver info to better hunt out bugs, it would probably be welcomed. It is instead a application that uses the logserver information for something it was never intended for, which is more or less the definition of a exploit, using resources provided for bug hunting for applications they were never intended for.
At its core, it is a breach of the spirit of the 'law' if not the letter of the 'law'. If you want to play MMO lawyer you can argue about the definitions of words all you like, but to deny that simple, obvious truth is deliberate obtuseness at its best.
CCP has been lenient in this case, possibly because of the general assumption that these sort of programs have been used among specific groups for some time now. There will likely never be any concrete proof that this assumption is true, due to the undetectable nature of these sorts of things. I would certainly hope that if CCP had definite evidence of the log server info being used this way before now that this issue would have been rendered moot by changes to the way the log server info works.
CCP gave the players a tool that gave us the ability to help the development of the game we love. Every single person who has abused that tool for personal gain ought to be ashamed. CCP is not perfect, and players have every right to point out, respectfully and constructively where and when they have screwed up. Usually many of us instead choose to heap invectives upon them, speculate wildly about their parentage , accuse them of a multitude of sins and generally act like hooligans knowing, like the coward who attacks an Amish man or other steadfastly pacifistic person, they are constrained from striking back in a similar fashion. Instead of using the nuclear option(simply shutting off player access to the log server info) they have chosen a more moderate approach. Which is, if you ask me, more than many deserve.
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